Episode #39 – WrestleMania IV

We break down the legendary WrestleMania IV, the Andre-Hogan story, the origins of Strike Force, Warrior-time and have a very emotional discussion regarding Demolition.


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  1. KJ1974 - Kevin says:

    A great story I heard on the “Right After Wrestling” podcast with former WWF Referee Jimmy Korderas. It involves the Trophy in the Battle Royale. The day before WM4 the refs practiced lifting the trophy into the ring and it broke in the process. In a panic they found a welder who put the it back together and according to Korderas that explains partially why it was difficult for Bret Hart to destroy the trophy after the match.

    • Black Cat says:

      That makes a lot of sense because it looked really cheap but Bret had a hell of a time breaking that thing.

  2. I too enjoyed watching PPV broadcasts on a big screen with a large group of people. In a previous city I lived in, the nearest movie theatre showed the WWE PPVs so I recall watching No Mercy 2005 (not old school yet, sorry) with my $10 popcorn and soda. The only problem was the PPV’s didn’t draw well (my friend and I would be like 2 of 30 people there) so the threatre quit getting the shows. I was also one of the few who would buy concessions, which was probably also a factor in the theatre’s decision to no longer show wrestling PPVs.

    Jook, no self respecting Jim Crocket Promotions fan wouldn’t have recognized Outlaw Ron Bass.

    I had heard that George Steel was ill that day and that’s why he didn’t go into the ring for the battle royal.

    I used to HATE Bad News Brown. He did nothing but punch and the Ghettoblaster. You know he had his working shoes on when he did a leg drop.

    Regarding the Pipers Pits leading up to Hogan/Andre at WMIII, don’t forget about the one with Jesse Ventura where he points out the difference in sizes of the trophies. Piper then said he would get Hogan to come on Piper’s Pit the following week and Jesse said he’d get Andre to show up. I can’t remember if that happened on the same TV as the trophy presentation, but I’d be willing to bet they happened on consecutive weeks. Jesse played an important part in the build to Hogan vs. Andre.

    I can understand why neither of you would be fans of Don Muraco during his good guy “The Rock” phase, but years before that when he was a bad guy during his IC title reigns the dude was great. Loved his promos and loved his matches with Chico Santana, Steamboat and
    Pedro Morales.

    Jook, did you really call Steamboat’s angle with Flair in January ’89 “infamous”?

    Rolling through the high cross body like the way Valentine beat Steamboat might be my least favorite finish to a wrestling match.

    Dre, I liked that you said this show was Savage’s Wrestlemania IV debut. Wouldn’t that hold true for everyone on the card? *wink*

    I heard somewhere that Bam Bam was injured during the tournament and was considered for winning the whole thing based on his popularity at the time. Bam Bam’s and Gang’s match was supposed to go longer but they cut it way short based on his injury.

    Dre, thank you for calling Hercules an asshole for wearing white boots with black trunks.

    I was smiling ear to ear when you were talking about using the wrong side of a chair to hit someone. Zero listened to the Feb. 5th 1988 Main Event episode, so I hope he listens to this one too.

    Dre’s Honky Tonk Man impression sounds more like Kermit the Frog.

    I remember it making absolutely zero sense that Gang would go after Savage with the cane. Gang was fresh, Savage wasn’t. Gang was pretty much destroying Savage in the match before carelessly
    getting DQ’ed.

    I don’t share your feelings on Demolition.

    I’m going to try and get The Drake to listen to this as he claims Wrestlemania IV is the best booked card of all time.

    • Black Cat says:

      – Regarding Ron Bass – I’ve always had an aversion to wrestlers in cowboy outfits who weren’t Stan Hansen, Barry Windham, or a certain other Roughneck.

      – Regarding my use of the word “infamous” – totally used the wrong word. Just meant famous or legendary or something like that.

      – I think I’m missing a joke about the white boots and black trunks thing.

      – YES! I though the same thing about OMG. It was out of no where and in the middle of a WWF Championship tournament. Maybe the Million Dollar Man paid him off…yes…that’s it.

      – You…don’t…share…our…feelings….on…Demolition? Fine, I’ll listen. How the hell was Demolition any good?

      – Let me know what Drake thinks. 😉

      • Jook you make a great point about Outlaw Ron Bass.

        I figured that’s what you meant when using the word “infamous”. You’re not the first person to use that word when describing something great.

        I’ll let Dre explain the black trunks/white boots thing. No wrestler should be caught sporting that combination and it drives me nuts whenever I see it.

        Million Dollar Man paying off Gang to injure Savage going into the finals would’ve totally made sense. If only they filmed a 10 second promo explaining that…

        Let me see if I can explain why I liked Demolition. This might be like explaining why I like double stuff Oreos…I just do. I’ll use a list format.

        1. I mostly watched WWF growing up and rarely watched AWA or NWA/JCP/WCW, so I didn’t see Demolition as a Road Warriors rip off at the time. The Demos didn’t look like the Road Warriors. The Powers of Pain looked more like the Road Warriors than Demolition did. Demolition didn’t storm the ring and destory their opponents in under 2 minutes.

        2. Ax looked a little soft in places but Smash wasn’t out of shape. They were both big dudes who looked like they could beat you up.

        3. That enterance theme. Great stuff.

        4. Good matches. Rarely did their matches suck, in my opinion.

        5. Good promos. My favorite will always be the one where they said they were warming up for their match by throwing cars around the parking lot.

        I’ll stay on Drake about listening to this podcast. With his schedule he may not get to it right away.

        • Oh and 6. Smash’s mustache.

        • Black Cat says:

          I’ll agree that they had good entrance music and they consistently had good wrestling matches. I’d have a hard time arguing the Road Warriors had good technical wrestling matches.

          I don’t agree with Smash’s mustache.

          And have you seen Barry Darsow recently wearing the Demolition garb? Holy…not good. Not good at all.

  3. Siskey says:

    I have been waiting for this one. Keep up the good work.

    • Black Cat says:

      Seems like a lot of people really love WM 4 or at least have a lot of memories of it. Enjoy the show!

  4. jeff says:

    That podcast was as hard to get through as the card itself.

    I have extremely fond memories of WMIV, being a kid at the time. Ive watched it a hundred times, but I was also 11 at the time, so I could be swayed very easily. I will look at it like I should 23 years later from a much more knowledgable standpoint.

    Totally agree, JYD could have been part of the tournament. He won the Wrestling Challenge Tournament beating Macho Man about 2 1/2 years before that. He could have easily replaced another face, like Don Muraco or Hacksaw, and the fans would totally buy pushing the JYD to the second round, fans loved to cheer for JYD.

    Also was a huge fan of the Killer Bees. I wonder why they were jobbers in PPV events, and on Superstars against full time jobbers almost every week.

    Was it a way to stick it to Ricky Steamboat having him lose to Valentine, and in that manner? Imagine the buzz in that place for a Steamboat/Savage rematch. Glad Steamboat ended up at JCP, this podcast might not exsist if he didn’t. Valentine is no slouch, and put together one of the best “bump” matches ever against the Bulldogs in WM2, a forgotten classic. He wrestled 95% of that match and did an awesome job selling the Bulldogs best moves. I always respected Greg Valentine.

    Bam Bam was getting a huge push at that time, and a Bam Bam/Rude match would have been a classic, but the bookers at this time were sold on totally giving the plot awy without any suspense I guess. Snake/Rude was one of the worst booked matches of all time, outside of anything Russo has ever done.

    Put Hulk Hogan promos with the likes of Ric Flair? Yes, I agree that might have been his best promo ever, but how many takes was it for that, guarentee you run out of fingers.I would put up Ole, Arn, or Tully against Hogan. OK, maybe not Tully, but seriously, you have got to be joking……

    Moving faster, I can not agree with you guys anymore with the Brain. The man was the clown prince of wrestling, but during his hayday he was an extremely respectable threat as a manager. I remember taping him on Regis and Kathy Lee hyping up the WMIII match with Andre/Hulk, and the guy has the whole place rolling in stiches. Taking him out of the wrestling arean, and put him main stream, he was a lovable bad guy. Riding backwards on the camera during WMIX was the highlight of that event. He was a menacing guy on camera, but so many guy have so many hilarious Bobby Heenan stories. Guys like Mene Gene and Flair.

    I agree with you guys to an extent, that yes they were the bootleg version of the Road Warriors, and the finishing move was retarded, but those guy were intimidating.

    In closing, another good job. I do look foward to each and every episode, and your mistakes are legendary and are the best part. 64 Teams in the Crockett Cup, National Heavyweight Title turning into the TV title, Battle Royal possibly in WM1, wow……makes me wonder????

    • Black Cat says:

      Good point about Heenan. He was an force in fear, especially during that time. He had a mean stable of dudes – Bundy, Orndorff, Hercules, Andre, Rude, Studd, Haku, among others.

      I think my point about Hogan’s promos was coming from a different place than my love for Flair, the Andersons and even Tully – his babyface enthusiasm couldn’t be matched by any of those guys. Those other guys perhaps had more intimidating, creative old school pro wrestling promos that most of us around here love, but Hogan’s charisma (which showed through especially in his promos) probably put more people in seats than all of those guys combined. So, is Flair better? Yeah, I guess so, but not as widely appealing as the Hulkster, brother.

      Ok, regarding our gaffes – and there’s plenty of them – feel free to gives us crap for the 64 team Crockett Cup line and even the National into the TV title (even though it was a year or two before my time!), and especially mispronouncing Hebner’s name, but contemplating for a moment whether there was a battle royal in WM1? Come on, man, that’s just persnickety 😉

      • Jeff says:

        I loyally stand by my blackberry like a loyal golden retriever would, waiting for the Old School Wrestling podcast to come home, with my tail violently wagging and all. I’m not knocking you guys, but making histotrical errors has become an entertaining part of your character. Also has me wondering why I can remember details about wrestling 25 years ago, but not my wife telling me something 25 seconds ago? She totally hates you guys.

        • Black Cat says:

          You were the second person yesterday to report their spouse had issues with our podcast.

          My romantic tip to sooth your wife’s sorrows – order some pizza, get some Mountain Dew, and pop in the complete collection of Rock n Roll Express vs Midnight Express feud and if that doesn’t seem to light the romantic fire, you might need to pull out the best of the Boogie Woogie Jimmy Valiant interview tape.

    • Dre says:

      In the words of Gorilla Monsoon, “The old school wrestling podcast is a fountain of misinformation.”

  5. Greg says:

    Wrestlemania IV was my favorite as a kid. I rented it from the local independent video store so often, that when they were going out of business they called my mom up and sold their copy to me for like $2, since I was the only one who rented it.

    I agree that it has lost it’s appeal and has grown stale, but I still like it because of my memories.

    Heenan was amazing. I used to hate his character so much and my dad would be laughing at his antics and I just didn’t get it.

    As for Demolition, I get where you are coming from, and they probably were a ripoff of the Road Warriors, but as a kid they scared me and their shtick worked. The entrance theme, the promos, and the matches all were top notch for the time. Watching them now -their outfits look like the were from the set of “Exit to Eden.”

    Anyway, love the podcast and thanks for reviewing Wrestlemania IV, as painful as it was for you guys.

    • Greg says:

      Tell ’em Ax! (red tongues out!!!)

      Crush sucked.

    • Black Cat says:

      I hadn’t thought about renting this until Dre reminded me of the two tape set and then I had instant flashbacks to getting this from my local store.

      Thanks for listening and the feedback.

  6. Good job guys, had me laughing a few times, especially with the little Strike Force clip at the end.

    I probably like this show better than most, but that’s because I have a kinda perverse love of seeing early 80s guys in the late 80s, you know what I mean? Just seeing like, I dunno, Ken Patera in 1988, horrible, out of shape, career going nowhere, just stuck in the battle royale. For some reason, I get a morose sense of enjoyment out of things like that. I love seeing Hercules in like y’know 1992, or Bobby Eaton just way out of place in WCW circa 2000. I’m a massive DiBiase mark as well, so that helps with this WM4.

    Anyway, I’m 100% with you on Demolition sucking, I always thought they sucked hard. I mean what did they ever do? Forearm smash? Double axe-handle. And that was about it. I’m a weird wrestling fan though, I was even ironic and arch as an 8 year old, so I never EVER liked anything I was meant to think was cool. I mean I hated Warrior and Hogan. I rooted for the heels from day 1. I think Rick Rude winning the IC belt at Wrestlemania 6 was one of the highlights of my youth because I was just so happy for Heenan. I was a total mark, but like the wrong way round. Anyway, Demolition are one of those teams people have real love for that I’ve never understood.

    Also, I’ve got to admit that as much as EVERYONE goes on about them being a Road Warriors rip off, I just don’t see it. The Road Warriors wore big metal spikes and had mohawks and they were absolutely stacked. They’d steamroller teams and they were always bad ass (even though being me, I never *liked* them either). Demolition look absolutely nothing like the Road Warriors, they look like Kiss – of “God Gave Rock and Roll to You” from the Bill and Ted soundtrack fame. As you pointed out, Ax was bloody fat man. And he was clearly in his 40s. And Smash was fucking Repo Man a few years later. On what planet does a fat middle-aged guy and the future Repo Man dressed as members of Kiss = Road Warriors rip offs? Tell me that Dre! Powers of Pain, I can see how they were rip offs, same build, same power wrestling style, same haircuts and face paint. But Demolition? I don’t see it. Can you ever see the Road Warriors being managed by Fuji and using a cheap cane finish?

    Anyway, keep it up guys – I really like the contrast between this, which is a more casual take on things, and supernerd take on things offered by Will and Rob Naylor’s show. Can’t get into the Wrestlespective One though – just listened to the one Black Cat did with that Jason guy. Problem with that is that his regular guest there, I forget the name, just doesn’t have the knowledge and you can tell they are kinda winging it a bit.

    • Black Cat says:

      I’m with you on the intrigue of seeing guys who have the skill, had a good run earlier in their career, but we’re hired by whatever promotion (WWF, usually) and are just hanging out as a curtain jerker or mid-carder, but still have solid matches even though they are stuck in wrestling limbo. And then there are the guys who’ve been stuck in limbo and have lost their motivation to do anything probably because they’ve hit a dead end.

      Regarding the Demolition/Warriors rip-off thing – I think it was just a matter of timing. They came around just as the Warriors were really hitting their mainstream stride in JCP and they had the spikes and were attempting to be badasses like the Warriors.

      I remember thinking the Powers of Pain were great even though I wasn’t a huge fan of the bad guys back then. What were some of their feuds/good matches? I’m drawing a blank on that one.

      Thanks for listening and the great feedback.

    • jeff says:

      Great point about Heenan’s first title. I think that was a great moment for Heenan. Who cared about the Ultimate Warrior in 1989 anyway. I think everyone was happy for Heenan, even the goodie two shoes babyfaces like Dre.

  7. Trak9 says:

    Another good episode and yes the show is really, really, really long. I’m sure you have heard the story about who was originally supposed to win the title at Wrestlemania IV? Ted Dibiase was originally supposed to win the title (not sure if Andre would’ve still “sold” him the title on the Main Event).

    Vince wanted the
    Honky Tonk Man to drop the Intercontinental Title to Randy Savage, but Honky said no and he even threatened to go to Jim Crockett and take the title with him. To please both parties Honky kept his title and Randy won the WWF title.

    I was not a fan of Don Muraco’s good guy phase with Superstar Billy Graham, but I would definetly check out his stuff from when he was in the Intercontinetal title chase in the early 80’s or even when he wrestled Hulk Hogan during Hogan’s early title reign. Also Fuji Vice is a classic.

    I’m sure you guys knew that Superstar Billy Graham tried to come back in 1986, but his hip would not allow it so he became a manager and later on was a commentator for Summerslamm 1988 & Wrestlefest 1988.

    Hulk Hogan of course like you said on the show took a break to go film No Holds Barred.

    I’m sure a lot of fans were dissapointed like I was that we did not get to see Steamboat vs. Savage two at Wrestlemania.

    What have you guys got against supposidly the very first person to slam Andre the Giant in the US Bill Eadie’s team Demolition.
    I enjoyed Demolition’s look and music, but not really the team’s wrestling skills once they took off their gear unless they were wrestling a team like the Brian Busters (who took the tag team titles from them over a year later) or the Hart Foundation (who took the titles from them at Summerslam 1990) for the example. I do think that WWF blew it by not having a longer Legion of Doom vs. Demolition feud.

    One Man Gang did start out in Angelo Poffo’s (Randy Savage and Lenny Poffo’s father) ICW so he and Randy Savage knew each other pretty well and the Gang used to sit with Savage and Ms. Elizabeth on plane flights. Also when Jim Crockett and the WWF were in the same area one time Randy Savage had Dynamite Kid watch his back at the bar.

    Randy Savage did have a pretty good first title reign wrestling against Ted Dibiase, Andre the Giant and Bad News Brown (who I always enjoyed) among others.

    Keep up the good work. Any chance of doing a show on Wrestlefest 1988 from County stadium with Hulk Hogan vs. Andre in a cage and or Summerslam 1988 or 1990?

    • Black Cat says:

      Thanks for reminding how great the tag team scene was about this time – Brain Busters, Harts, Bulldogs, Strike Force, Rockers, Young Stallions, and, yes, even Demolition.

      I forgot about the Savage vs Brown matches. Will have to look those up.

      Re: Slamming Andre – there were a few guys who slammed Andre, including Harley Race and Bockwinkle, I believe. Don’t know about Edie.

      I’m really getting into this WWF 88/89 stuff, but we’ll be taking a break for awhile – I’m sure we’ll be back soon as there’s so much to talk about and it seems like everyone loves it.

      • Trak9 says:

        I’m not sure if this was already posted, but Sam and Ricky Steamboat are not releated however Ricky and Richie (Little Dragon) Steamboat are related even though their real last name is Blood. Richie is still in Florida Championship Wrestling I believe.

  8. Trak9 says:

    You might ask any of your Canadian listeners if they they still show WWE PPV’s in theaters. I know they still did years ago.

  9. Blackcat – I think Powers of Pain had a feud with the Road Warriors in NWA, and then with Demolition in WWF – they actually did the big double turn where the Demos turn face and PoP turn heel because Fuji switches sides. That’s on Wrestlemania 5, which is one of the VHS’s I watched over and over as a kid.

    I don’t think they have any other memorable angles to speak of. Apart from when they split and various managers bid for their contracts. Slick got the Warlord and Heenan got The Barbarian. Used to love it when the managers would squabble with each other and auction for contracts. Not sure what Fuji was up to in 1991, but he disappeared for a while and then came back as “Old Fuji in the robe” managing Yokozuna.

    If you’re still taking requests, I’d like to see you guys do Halloween Havoc 1995.

    • Black Cat says:

      I remembered their feud with the Warriors around 1988 and specifically their six man “barbed wire” match with the Warriors and Dusty Rhodes.

  10. Rusty Brooks Biggest Fan says:

    WMIV was entirely too long. I dont think this was a horrible PPV.. just too damn long!

    Dre, I love your impression of Andre the Giant. My brother and I used to do his voice when we were kids. Its fun to pretend that you have a mouth full of cellulite and talk shit to your brother.

    • Dre says:

      Thanks Rusty, just wait until you hear my Bushwacker Luke impression. It’s Legend…. (wait for it)…ary

  11. The British Bullfrog says:

    Wrestlemania 4 will always be remembered as the event that sat alone from the VHS video tower, as being a double video it wouldn’t fit with its conterparts.

    Once again your podcast evokes memories of those difficult teenage days gone by!

    Parents would ask,
    “What do you do in your room all of the time?”
    “Why can we hear men shouting on your TV?”
    “Why does your room smell so funny?”

    Other memories came flooding back of how we dressed, what we listened to and even, what we thought back then.
    We all have those moments trapped in time that make us cringe, many of which we would rather forget. Most of Wretlemania 4 infact!

    There was always the cool kid though, who can look back on his teens and confidently say he got it right.

    Q.Who is your favourite wrestler?
    A.Ric Flair

    Q.What records have you bought lately?
    A.Stevie Wonder – Songs in the Key of Life

    That is one weird kid. I’m going home to put on my rubber gloves with the fingers cut off and strut like Brutus the Barber Beefcake whilst listening to Debbie Gibson’s Out of the Blue.

    It’s all part of growing up, and maybe the cool kid isn’t so cool anymore, and even if he is, I bet his room stinks.

  12. Rusty Brooks Biggest Fan says:

    So guys, as a resident of Atlanta, I did my duty as a true wrestling fan last night.. I attended WRESTLEMANIA 27. It lasted 4 hours (4.5 hours including the dark match battle royal). So I don’t see how WM4 is any different than WM27 at this point.

    So what was WM27 like for an old school fan? Well, oddly enough, the biggest pops of the night were for celebrities and old school wrestlers (mainly the retired ones). Biggest pops of the night? Snooki, The Rock, Stone Cold, and HBK. Live with it WWE marks.. it was the truth.

    The thing that struck me about the event was how QUIET it was in the Ga Dome during many of the matches. I could have had a cell phone conversation and not have had a problem hearing the person on the other line due to background noise during most of the matches. It was an odd silence.

    And leaving the Dome last night, and riding home of the subway, we didnt hear anyone shouting out Cena or Miz catch phrases… no, it was a bunch of grown men going, “WHOOOOOO” and “HOOOOOOOOOOOO”…. actually, we heard Flair and Duggan shout outs the whole card oddly enough.

    I had a blast. So did my family. Im glad I went. I love wrestling. What can I say.

  13. Dre says:

    I attended wrestlemania 23 in Detroit. I experienced the same silence you did in the dome. I think it must be something about the grand size of a stadium that makes you feel like your not really there. Strange to understand until you experience it in person. Saying that, I did have a great time. My favorite part was standing outside the stadium before the gates opened. Being around 80,000 of the most enthusiastic wrestling fans in the world was awesome. There were some crazy folks dressed up in costumes.

    As for last nights show, I saw a lot of negative facebook reviews, but I thought it was the best mania in a few years. The undertakers entrance very original. The Johnny Cash song and the slow walk to the ring just set the mood of his mission. It was like he was saying, “I am here to kill Triple H. I’m not happy about it, but that is the reason why I was put here on earth.”

    I liked all the extra time they gave to the rock to open the show, the orton-cm punk match was awesome, and it may have been hard to enjoy it at the Georgia dome, but the Lawler-Cole-Austin match was so much fun to watch on TV.

    • Rusty Brooks Biggest Fan says:

      Dre, I too had an awesome time. I was with 2 of my old school wrestling fan buddies and we had a blast. Just knowing that you are at WRESTLEMANIA is a great feeling.

      And I agree about the Dome. I felt like I was outside looking in or something at times. Its not like when I used to go see WCW or NWA at the smaller venues back in the late 80s and early 90s.

      The fans outside were WAY less hyped up than I expected however. Everyone was kind of quiet and seemed not really into it. I expected to see people going apeshit, but they weren’t. I was kinda let down by that. I think that has alot to do with the current product being more directed at the youth segment, instead of crazy nuts like us in the 18-34 yr old bracket. I did see some kid in a Cena shirt getting his ass beat by his mom in front of the Dome though. A limo had pulled up, and the kid goes, “SNOOKIE” and starts to run across the busy street. The mom grabbed him and beat his ass right there in front of God, Jesus, and everyone else.

      I am pleased though about the direction WWE is going in. It NEVER needs to go back to the Attitude era, as far as sex and profanity go. However, lack of sex and profanity has NOTHING to do with wrestling being in a down period right now. That has to do with lack of good writers, lack of compelling storylines, and lack of new guys with any real star power. You can still have a great PG show without being lame (ie the Hulkamania era of the 80s).

      I think WWE is going in a good direction now. And heres why..

      1) They have already announced the match for next years Mania between Rock and Cena. This means that a match will actually have a buildup of more than 2-3 months or so. There are so many damn PPVs now, that feuds never have the time to properly build like they did back in the old days. Hopefully they will do it right. This is their chance.

      2) They brought the Rock back. This is great. All of the mega stars of the late 90s/early 00s ALL left before way before their time was up. There was never really a transitional period between the Attitude era/early 00s and now. Lesnar left to the UFC.. Austin couldnt no longer wrestler.. Rock left to do movies.. Goldberg obviously didnt have the heart any longer.. So WWE has left with a bunch of under-developed young guys with no one to pass the torch to them. WWE needs guys like The Rock now. And it doesnt hurt having guys like Austin, Booker T, and JR around.

      3) Sin Cara. I could be wrong, but it seems to me that all the new guys in WWE are all basically cookie cutter. They all wrestle the same, look the same, come out to the same sort of shitty nu metal theme, go by their real name, no gimmick, etc. Sin Cara brings a classic style back to wrestling. I was reminded last night of guys like Juventud, old school Rey, Ultimo Dragon, etc., when Sin Cara made his debut.

      Thats just my thoughts for now.

      • Black Cat says:

        I’m looking forward to the year build for Cena/Rock. They fumbled the initial announcement, but obviously lots of time to fix it. I think they are trying to slow the pace of things down (see Miz’s longish title reign) and I think that’s really good. Perhaps they are seeing the errors of the crash booking from the late 90s/early 2000s.

        Sin Cara/Mistico is awesome and you are right, he stands out. Just glad he didn’t fubar that sprinting entrance on Monday night. Supposedly there was a trampoline outside the ring but I didn’t notice it that night.

        • Rusty Brooks.. says:

          I was afraid when Sin Cara was leaping into the ring behind that huge pyro blast, that he would fall and end up like the Shockmaster.

  14. David Lo Pan says:

    Real simple: JerryVonKramer (if that is your real name…) had it exactly right. Demolition was KISS and the Road Warriors were Black Sabbath. I never compared one with the other cause there was no comparison. One group was dark and dangerous that you liked but secretly feared while the other was facepaint and bells&whistles.

    Theme song was badass though……

    Also, anytime you can squeeze in an Andre The Giant impression, please do so liberally. “Anyone want a peanut?”

    • Black Cat says:

      The Kiss/Black Sabbath analogy is the most convincing argument I’ve heard for Demolition. They did have some solid matches.

      I’d be happy if Andre appeared on every episode. And maybe his friend Jesse Ventura.

      • Rusty Brooks.. says:

        I would say the Road Warriors are The Beatles, what Demolition was to Oasis. I would consider the Powers of Pain to be the Ruttles…

        • Black Cat says:

          Hey, don’t be making fun of the Powers of Pain! For whatever reason I liked them but hated Demolition. I just read the PoP wiki page and love that apparently when LoD was negotiating with WWF they asked the the PoP be repackaged.