Episode #22 – Showdown at Shea 1980

Dre and Black Cat go way back to 1980 in this review of the Showdown at Shea 1980. This old stadium show highlights some of the big WWWF names of yesteryear, like Bruno Sammartino, Larry Zbyszko, Ayn Rand, some big guy with long blonde hair and a cape, and Andre the Giant. We also discuss the upcoming 25th episode EXTRAVAGANZA FLAIR/STEAMBOAT TRILOGY. Please leave a comment below if you have any comments for this upcoming episode, specifically wondering which of the three 1989 Flair/Steamboat matches was your favorite.

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  1. Uncle Soda says:

    Wow, you are really setting a nice pace. New podcast already.

    My favourite from the 89 trilogy is the WrestleWar match. It’s not so much what they do in the ring action wise that sets it apart from me, but the feeling of settling this epic once and for all just gives the whole thing such a majestic feel.

    I have never seen anything from the Shea Stadium show so I don’t think I’ll have anything to contribute with but I’m looking forward to hearing you guys talking about it. I think you could have a 5 star podcast by talking to a broom stick 🙂

    • Black Cat says:

      We’ve just been having a good time making the podcast so we’ve been putting them out more often. Thanks for listening and thanks for the feedback on the flair/steamboat match.

  2. bill says:


    • Black Cat says:

      Thanks for the feedback! Anything in particular? We generally only do things that are at least 10 years old. We’ll be doing something from 2000 in a few episodes, though.

  3. Dre says:

    Next review: George Hackenscmit vs Carl Gotch
    Episode after that: Abe Lincoln vs. Jebadia Springfield
    Episode after that: A brontosaurus vs. Ric Flair

    • Pete says:

      Lincoln was actually a catch-as-Catch can practitioner. Read it in a biography of him. Straight shootin!

  4. Uncle Soda says:

    Really looking forward to the brontosaurus match. I hope it’s the one where Flair sneazed a 9½ on the Black Cat scale. What a sick blood bath.

    I almost felt bad for you when talking about how boring Shea was, so thanks for putting on another great show anyway. A lot of comedy gold from you again. I think my favorite wsa the hilarious bit about Morales killing Backlund.

    And now you’re already up with another episode. Good times, these.

  5. I’ve never seen this show but I can’t imagine how agonizing it must’ve been to get through it. I’ve seen the Hogan/Andre match because it was on the Hulk Still Rules DVD.

    I believe the big Shea shows were actually in ’72, ’76 and ’80.

    I’m pretty sure Baron Mikel Scicluna was German, not Italian.

    An addition to the Captain Lou telling Vince to F off: Apparently he also reminded Vince that his dad said he couldn’t fire him. So Vince, to show him who’s boss now, let him go.

    Why in the world would the tag belts even be on the line in the first place if a champion can’t hold more than one title? What a screw job.

    I loved it that Jook thought the bread basket was your test-ee-clays. Being an avid lover of Gorilla Monsoon who always used that term, I always thought it was the area above your package but below your naval.

    Anyone who hasn’t seen young 1970’s Andre is missing out. I saw him do a sunset flip in a Japanese match. Just awesome.

    On the poster you posted for this show, who’s the guy in the lower left? I thought maybe Patterson but I don’t think that’s him. It’s not Zbysko is it?

    Jook, you mean to tell me you don’t go nuts for Zbysko’s stalling? I heard he had a match one where literally 16+ minutes was spent stalling.

    Loved the podcast as always, looking forward to the Born to be Wired mini-cast!

    • Black Cat says:

      That is most certainly Larry and his stalling was more annoying than an RVD match.

  6. Uncle Soda says:

    Hardcore Badass, that is indeed Zbysko in the bottom left.

    It’s pretty strange that WWWF didn’t put Hogan on the cover of the program since he was the draw.

    The bread basket chat was hilarious. Black Cat’s stunned silence at first. Gold 🙂

  7. Jook, don’t even try to tell me you don’t froth at the mouth every time RVD breaks the flow of a match after every signature spot to go high five everyone in the first 3 rows. 🙂

  8. trak9 says:

    Parts of the Larry Zbysko vs. Bruno Sammartino cage match are on the cage match DVD that WWE put out several years ago. Baron Mikel Scicluna was from Malta.

    The first match from the Flair vs. Steamboat 1989 trilogy is on the Greatest Superstars of the 80’s DVD. The Second match from the Clash of Champions VI is on the Ricky Steamboat DVD and the first Ric Flair DVD. The Wrestlewar match is also on the first Ric Flair DVD.

    My personal favorite Flair vs. Steamboat 89 is from the Clash of Champions VI where they go almost an hour. I won’t argue too much with someone (I believe Triple H put it on his first DVD)if they like their match from Wrestlewar 89