#105 – SuperBrawl 2
We take the way-back machine to 1992 this week as we review WCW SuperBrawl 2 and Black Cat has a very special present for Dre in anticipation of the show. The Fed Ex tracking number for this giant package is 123456789 123ABC 1122XYZ. Join us as we talk about this classic show, discuss feedback from the Tommy Rich show, and answer another great Quick 123 question. Please support the show by visiting the OSWP store at flairchop.com. We just released the second season of OSWP. This box set features OSWP episodes 51-75, the amazing art of Dean Stahl, and two brand new episodes that will never be posted on the website with over four hours of new content. On our first bonus episodes we discuss the VERY FIRST NWA TNA Wrestling PPV from June 2002 and on the second bonus episodes we break down the 1992 PWI 500. There’s also a special bonus easter egg featuring a special visit from Stone Cold Dre Austin. All of this for only $9.99. Also available now is the David Crockett’s Thanksgiving Day OSWP poster. Click on the banner ads to the right to purchase these fine products today!
Such a weird event…didn’t live up to the awesomeness that was Superbrawl I, but looking back, it has a some time-capsule moments. Stoked to listen!
Good show fellas. 92 is right in my wheel house…probably going to have to listen again to digest it all. But just wanted to comment before I forget. In regards to Travis Tritt…I can totally see him holding Bishoff hostage for the new Bike. I too have a Travis Tritt story. A friend of mine’s family runs a pretty well known Rodeo in the Midwest and good old Travis was booked for the event (and was way over paid). In Travis’ contract it was agreed that if weather didn’t cooperate he would still get paid (which is common for all performers) however with most people they will agree to come back the next year or do a different date. So the day of the concert it had stormed all day & apparently Mr. Tritt canceled his preformance himself and sent his “assoicate” to the Rodeo to let people know thanks for the check and he would not be returning. Also to be noted there were several backup options for Travis still to play but they came up with several excuses to take the money & run. Awesome guy.
Great show as always. I was not a fan of SuperBrawl 2 for one simple reason, I was a Lex Luger fan and I hated knowing he would lose. Yes, I was the one. For some reason I always was a fan of Luger back in the day. As a kid I would daydream about Luger picking me out of the crowd to join him in a match. He would be the “Total Package” and I would be the “Small Package”. Hey, it sounded clever at the time. While I was a huge fan of the Road Warriors and the Four Horsemen, for some reason I also held Luger on the same pedestal.
Also, it was nice to hear the name drop of Lou E. Dangerously, who by the way went on to work for the WWE for several years and now works for Cirque du Soleil in Las Vegas. His wife was my daughter’s speech therapist years ago and she gave my wife one of her most prized possessions, a Christmas card signed by the COO himself, Triple H.
Here’s my Quick 123:
[3] Saliva preforms “King Of My World” during Chris Jericho’s entrance for the World Heavyweight Championship Elimination Chamber.
One of my favorite matches has to be the very first Elimination Chamber from WWE Survivor Series 2002, simply because Shawn Michaels won the World title in his second match back from retirement (HBK was the man who got me into wrestling). With that said, I think Saliva playing Chris Jericho to the ring was pretty neat, since Jericho had to stand in the pod for an awkward amount of time when Saliva finished preforming his song, which made it number three as one of my favorite musical moments in wrestling.
[2] Motorhead playing Triple H to the Ring for WrestleMania X7 and 21.
When Shawn Michaels retired, there was a void in my wrestling life where I didn’t have a favorite wrestler. Within a few short years, with his performances in the ring, Triple H took over that spot for me. With the heavy metal band Motorhead playing him to the ring not once, BUT TWICE at two different WrestleManias (both of which he lost), this has to be up there on one of my favorite musical moments in wrestling.
[1] CHRIS JERICHO as the LEAD VOCALIST for FOZZY (and their Raw concert on August 19th, 2002, preforming “To Kill A Stranger”)!
Around the year 2000 I started to fall in love with Chris Jericho as my favorite wrestler and shortly thereafter, I started to fall in love with hard rock. I discovered Fozzy after their performance on Raw in 2002, to help build up Jericho’s match with Ric Flair at SummerSlam that year. Besides Jericho showing that back in 2002 it’s better to listen to him on CD than live, Flair made up for it by bashing the band’s equipment after their performance, making this my favorite musical moment in wrestling! Woooooo, baby!
Dre’s J.R. impression sounds more like Ed Ferrara doing J.R.
One interesting (or perhaps cringe-worthy) music crossover event was in 1999, when Vampiro brought the Misfits into the WCW!
loved the show and SuperBrawl 2-Electric Boogaloo was precisely at the time l was seriously into wcw. lt was nothing to do with workrate, it was because in the Uk, satellite tv (read: paid for) had acquired the rights to the WWF so terrestrial tv (read: Free) picked up wcw to fill the gap. Mama Reckoning was no fool-it was all the same to her and one didn’t cost money so it was Badstreet, El Gigante and the Dangerous Alliance for me. Not complaining
From memory, whoever was running Wcw at the time (Kip Frey,Bill Watts, the office Cat-it was a revolving door at the top. lm fairly sure l was in charge for a couple of weeks) claimed that after Christmas, Luger went into seclusion to train hard for his bout with Sting. This is why he wasnt at any house shows or on tv in the run up to the ppv, coincidentally this was some of the best stuff the company ever did. The actual reason was that Lugers contract was up and he was off to the WWF (or WBF as it turned out) but none of the 43 vp’s they had in 92 spotted that he had worked all his contractually required number of dates and if there is one thing we know about Luger its that he doesnt put forth one iota of extra effort, so there was bugger all chance he was making any appearances he didnt have to.
we are lucky he even showed for the ppv. Actually,perhaps not. If he had pulled a Flair at Bash 91, we could have had Sting v Cactus or Rude or Steamboat (read: people who gave a crap)
I always loved the Cactus Jack “head stuck in the ropes” spot. Cactus always looked like a rabid cat that was cornered and didn’t knwo what to do. I found it odd that WWF in all of their wisdom, stole this spot and gave it to HEADSHRINKER SAMU. What a waste.
I also loved Dre’s description of the finish to the Pillman/Liger match. I never knew what to call it, but “feet in the armpits backwards roll-up with bridge” is perfect. Screw Pat O’Conner and his roll, Dre should be naming all moves going forward.
Quick 1-2-3: Mine is only 1, because most music moments stink.
Salt n Pepa singing LT to the ring at his WrestleMania bout against Bam Bam Bigelow. That was awesome.
For my quick 123, its a straight choice between two:
Robert Goulet at Mania 6, because, well, its Robert f’n Goulet! (its further enhanced by Will Ferrels impression of him)
The other one is Steve Allen with the Bolsheviks in the bathroom at the same event (I think)
“Perestroika and Glasnost,
I dig them the utmost,
and how is your sister tonight”
After some consideration, Lex Luger had a similar career path to a guy who was his predecessor by a few years, and that’s Ric Flair.
Let me explain:
Just what, a year or so before this, the “Power of WCW” wanted Ric Flair to drop the belt under circumstance that Flair didn’t want, so he left on top, as WCW/NWA Worlds Heavyweight Champion and went to work for Vincent Kennedy McMahon with the Big Gold Belt, and with a New York State of Mind
Fast forward to 1992 where, Luger was leaving too, and he was on top of WCW as their World Heavyweight Champion. Only difference is he dropped the belt on his way out.
Both Flair and Luger headlined at least one WrestleMania a piece in the WWF during their times there (Flair with Mania 8, yet Hogan and Sid was the last match, while Luger with Mania 10, with Bret Hart Yokozuna was in the last match for that Mania), and both gentlemen won the Royal Rumble while being pushed by the WWF (Flair in 1992, Luger co-won in 1994 with Bret).
Though Flair won the WWF title twice and Luger didn’t even win it once, both men headlined in the New York company before heading back south to work for Billionaire Ted and his rasslin’ company.
Years later, Chris Benoit would do the same, win the WCW World Heavyweight title on his last night in the company, hand over the belt and work for the WWF in 2000, where, months later, win the WWF Intercontinental title from Olympic Gold Medalist, Kurt Angle. I will not discuss what happened later in his career.
You guys are gonna set sued as many times and you said Super Bo…I mean…”The Big Game.”
Loved Dre’s Jim Ross impression. I think he needs to explore and develop the early Jim Ross impression because there’s money to be made since most people know the way JR sounded in WWF/E. Many don’t realize he used to sound different.
Interesting fact about Lex Lugar doing a piledriver: He called it the Attitude Adjustment. I believe some guy today you may have heard of uses a move of the same name.
Dre’s Jesse Ventura impression is aweful.
My favorite part of the Rap is Crap angle: Despite it taking off the way it did, it got shelved when Hogan realized he couldn’t follow it.
A couple personal favorite and not so favorite music artist crossovers:
1. Run DMC at Wrestlemania 5. I watched this at a neighbor’s house with a group of older white guys who didn’t care for the music for one reason or another. I’ll let your imagination do the rest.
2. (Exanding on Disco Stu’s comments) Steve Corino interupts a Limp Bizkit concert in Peoria. Basically Corino tells everyone to keep the noise down because he’s trying to wrestle in another part of the Peoria Civic Center. Fred Durst’s response was to get the crowd to join him in a “f**k you mother f**ker” chant. Knowing what I know about Corino today, he really took one for the ECW team that evening.
While like anyone else, I appreciate being asked to do things as opposed to being told to do things. With that said, I’d be happy to do live announcements for OSWP and Awesome 80’s during the much anticipated Wrestlemania 30 trip.
I wanted to stick up for Terry Taylor. He was fantastic in Mid-South, JCP, UWF and World Class pre-Red Rooster (say ’84-’87). Taylor had great matches with everyone from Ric Flair to Chris Adams and Buddy Landel and was equally strong as a face or heel. Admittedly, his career after that leaves a lot to be desired.
Speaking of the Mecca in Milwaukee, it was home to King of the Ring ’96 and, thus, hosted the moment when Steve Austin coined the term Austin 3:16.
Flair and Anderson were never tag champs. Anderson did win titles with all the partners you noted, and one with Paul Roma. That tag team is a little less lustrious, to say the least.