#78 – Saturday Night’s Main Event, November 29, 1986

This week we review a classic old WWF Saturday Night’s Main Event, featuring Hulk Hogan vs Hercules, The Hart Foundation vs The Killer Bees, Randy Savage vs Jake Roberts, and much much more. Also look at some GREAT feedback regarding the Great American Bash 89 and the mythology of the Great Muta’s mist!

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  1. Sergeant J says:

    Probably not numero uno for a comment, but this, my fellow Flair Chopians, is Sergeant J’s wheelhouse. The Blackest Cat of them all must have been reading my mind, because I was wondering, quite recently I might add, when they would hit an entire Saturday Night’s Main Event.

    Before this loads into my itunes account, I am going to try to recollect this particular Saturday Nights Main Event, November 86. Ah yes, I remember the Piper/Sheik match where Piper came out with the crutch and I dont remember who got the welts but it was nasty.

    Orndorff/Hogan fued was white hot at the time, but I dont remember if that match was on this episode.

    I think this one might have been Jake vs. Macho Man IC Title match as well, the WWF seeing if Jake could get a pop from the crowd. I took a guess and we will see if I am right. Not bad for a 35 year old douche trying to remember a TV show he watched in fourth grade.

    • Sergeant J says:


      Classy Fred Blassie, not the Grand Wizard. I think the Wizard was actually dead by this time in 1986. Blassie was in the ring when he was introducing the manager who would replace him with all those contracts. When Slick walked out, the crowd was like “Who???”

      Regards, Dre,

      Sergeant J

      • Dre says:

        you are correct. My bad.

        ***legal notification: The Old School Wrestling Podcast is a fountain of misinformation.

  2. Dame Kash says:

    Ohhh You Did’nt Know….?

  3. Irrestable object says:

    I agree , you guys could do an entire show on Slick alone. He replaced Fredy Bassie not Grand Wizard. Also became rev. Slick later on and civilized Kamala. His character was tits.

  4. One of the highlights of the “Piledriver” VHS tape is the Jive Soul Bro video- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DQh4gYVXn0Q

  5. Macho Man sounded like he was half laughing during his promo before the show. He and Elizabeth probably had a good laugh after the cameras stopped rolling because it was so ridiculous.

    I love that Dre continues to insist on mispronouncing “Earl Hebner”. He must have Hugh on the mind.

    Jook, I don’t know if I’d recommend you going back and watching the Jive Soul Bro video. It’s pretty racist if you really analyse it.

    Dre’s Hogan impression: Fair. Dre’s Slick impression: Excellent!

    I can’t remember who, but someone recently made the joke that Hogan must’ve been talking about Michigan when he pointed at his hand and claimed it’s where the power lies.

    I don’t envy Jook for watching hours of Jim Brunzel. To me that translates into hours of dry as powder promos.

    • Dre says:

      Hardcore Badass’ softball skills = fair
      Hardcore Badass’ wardrobe likeness to Hotstuff Eddie Gilbert = Excellent

      • Fair is pretty generous when rating my softball skills that one summer. I think I grounded out to the pitcher every at-bat while Dre batted 1.000 for over half the season.

  6. JBLCENAFAN says:

    Guys what happened this week? Linda Hogan does have a book out , and if you want to see Hulks house and how he lives Hogan Knows Best had like 3 or 4 seasons!

  7. Goat says:

    Great Muta did make a woman pregnant with his mist in Hustle. She got pregnant and then on the next show Akebono came out in a bib and diaper as their kid.

  8. Dead Reckoning says:

    Its almost redundant to heap praise on you for another fine show but lets do it anyway – kudos chaps, yet another top notch performance!

    Personally SNME was my favourite WWF show of all, even above the PPVs because it represented a rare opportunity to see bouts between ‘name’ wrestlers rather than jobber squashes like we go on Superstars and was pretty much the only time you got to see Hogan wrestle on TV.

    Imagine that – the No 1 star in the company only wrestled on TV a handful of times a year, or to relate it to modern times, less than the combined total screen time John Cena gets in one episode of Raw. Sounds heavenly doesn’t it?

    Great discussion point about the Killer Bees / masks / what makes a heel.

    Exactly what was the difference between the Bees pulling the masks stunt and when the Conquistadors or Demolition did it? (Except of course that one of these teams is the greatest of all time?)

    One that subject, the more you think about it, the more you realise Hulk Hogan was a pure heel. Case in point – the War Bonnet (Google it and weep). What difference is there between that and Honky’s guitar, Jimmy Harts microphone or Capt Lou Albanos BO?

    As time goes by it becomes ever more clear why Jesse Ventura went on to political success – he was right all along. Suck it Gorilla.

    Keep up the tremendous work chaps

    ps. I appreciate the shout out on the Heffner thing. I apologise profusely if Dre gets a complex about it. I am insufferable pedant who deserves to be shot for such pickiness. Perhaps then, I shouldnt point out that it was Dick Ebersol, not Dick EMbersol. Yes, I am total arse.

  9. The British Bullfrog says:

    …Breaking News…

    Episode #78 and !

    The Black Cat had his John Lennon moment when he proclaimed that in Minnesota, “In 1980, Jim Brunzell was more popular than Prince.”

    Demonstrators immediately took to the streets in protest to Black Cats comment. Banners with slogans such as “Prince partied like it was 1999 for you Black Cat” and “Ban OSW Pod cast”, were seen.

    One Prince fan commented “Black cat needs to watch what he says. What’s next? Old School Wrestling Pod cast is more popular than the Beatles?”

    Demonstrations have been organised by Prince fans to encourage public burnings of the Old School Wrestling Pod cast box set.

    At $9.99 each Black Cat and Dre are hoping for very big fires.

  10. B.Diddy says:

    Like stated above, Muta did impregnate a woman with his mist and can be seen here:


    Also Slick is the man. Here’s the best tribute video on Youtube to him, IMO. I agree he should get his own podcast.


    I will come back and write more later. EASILY the best show on the web, my brothas!! I am picking up what you’re putting DOWN!!!

  11. B. Diddy says:

    One last thing……

    Asian mistAsian mist refers to the illegal maneuver of spitting a colored liquid into the face of an opponent in professional wrestling. After doing so, the opponent will (in storyline) be blinded and experience intense stinging in the eyes. Asian mist can come in almost any color, but the most common one used is green. On rare occasion, a wrestler will use a flammable substance (e.g. alcohol).

    Green Mist – The most common mist, which obscures the opponent’s vision.
    Red Mist – This mist is purported to burn rather than blind.
    Black Mist – An even more powerful mist which is purported to severely blind an opponent for a prolonged period of time.
    Blue Mist – This mist is used to send an opponent to sleep.
    Yellow Mist – This mist is purported to paralyze the opponent.

    • Sergeant J says:

      B. Diddy,

      Thank you for helping me realize that I do, in fact, have a life.

      Yours Truly,

      Sergeant J.

      P.S. My daily Army motivational speech:

      “You do not wear the uniform and execute missions for your personal gain, or to bring attention to yourself. It is not about you. It is about carrying on the legacy of the American Soldier.”

  12. Frankito says:

    Ernie Roth, The Grand Wizard of Professional Wrestling! I remember the first program i bought at a wrestling match was the Tribute to the Grand Wizard after he died in 1983. there was not a better manager in the WWF at the time, Capt. Lou was close though.
    Muraco/Wiz and Superstar Graham/wiz were probably the best Manager/Wrestler Combo in the history of the WWF. Also under the name Abdullah Farouk he managed the Original Shiek!

    much better than slick! had he been alive i guarantee the grand wizards song would have blown jive soul bro out of the water

  13. ann onimus says:

    the feud with piper and orton was a result of piper leaving wwf for a bit, i believe to film a movie. in the meantime wwf gave the pipers pit spot to adrian adonis to do “the flower shop” which also included ace orton as the bodyguard. when piper returned, he turned face by trashing the flower shop and thus the feud with adonis and orton(now known as acey) began.

  14. Frankito says:

    yeah Piper left wrestling to film “They live”.
    how bad did Cowboy Bob Orton Jr. Look in that Pink Cowboy hat?


  15. B. Diddy says:

    Just a note: Koko B. Ware’s Florida team was called the P.Y.T. Express. His partner was Norvell Austin and they wore Michael Jackson jackets and one white glove each to the ring. It was all kinds of awesome!!

  16. B. Diddy says:

    PYT = Pretty Young Things

  17. BJ says:

    This was one of my favorite SNME as a kid. I remember almost thinking/hoping Hogan was going to lose the title to Hercules in the back breaker. To this day, I thought his arm dropped 3 times. 🙂

    Also, I loved the Piper/Orton match and the music video about the relationship history between Piper and Orton. I loved the song “You’re a friend of mine” by Clarence Clemens & Jackson Browne.
    It was much better than the generic music they used when they put this video on the Roddy Piper DVD set. To the 12 year old version of me, this was a much bigger match than Roddy vs. Adonis.

    Great show as usual!

  18. When I was a kid, I recorded all the SNMEs to VHS and watched them over and over again. Of all of them, this particular installment was definitely one of my 2 or 3 most viewed.

    If nothing else, this event is worth watching for Mr. Fuji’s rendition of Dick Slater’s theme, “I Wish I Was In Dixie”, as the Magnificent Muraco claps and stomps along. It’s beautiful. Transcendent, even.

  19. Dick Sgt. Sgt. York. says:

    Just wanted to say this is a great podcast and SNME was and still is my favorite wrestling show. Everyone seemed larger than life and hollywood on the show. Honky Tonk Man said the Ebersol dude came up with lots of the things that gave the show that effect. From lights to the camera filming over the back of Andre The Giant to get over how huge he was , NBC helped WWF way more than they get credit!