#94 – Booker T v Jeff Jarrett, San Francisco 49er Match, October 2, 2000

We get four poles the hard way in this review of a classic WCW gimmick match pitting the dastardly  Jeff Jarrett vs 5 time, 5 time, 5 time WCW Heavyweight champion, Booker T. What’s a San Francisco 49er match? Only Vince Russo knows. We also go over TWO SHOWS of feedback. Please support the podcast by visiting flairchop.com where you can buy our tremendous “mail-order wrestling gimmicks” t-shirt, posters, and the box set of our first 50 episodes. You can also get a free OSWP sticker by leaving a comment on the iTunes store.

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22 Comments

  1. Great show as always…but I have something point out.

    If you go back and listen to Mark Madden’s *ahem* commentary, when he talks about Stacy Keibler’s baby, he’s not referring to Jeff Jarrett being the father. He says something about Buff Bagwell being back and possibly being the father of Stacy’s baby.

    This was during the period of time where Stacy was dating David Flair, and Flair accused Buff of being the baby’s daddy…so they had a match to determine the paternity. Because that makes sense, right?

    • I saw this “match”. I believe it was on a Halloween Havoc card. Buff Bagwell faced off against David Flair in a “DNA” match. AKA a first blood match. David Flair was going to make Buff bleed, steal some of the blood, and hand it off to waiting scientists to have it analyzed. The following night on Nitro, Flair would already have the results, and it would prove that Buff was the father.

      Flair actually lost the match, but someone got Buff to bleed anyway. He stole approximately half a drop of Buff’s blood, and handed it off to the scientists. I did not care enough to seek out the following night’s Nitro results to see if indeed Buff Daddy was the Daddy.

    • Black Cat says:

      How could I have forgotten about David Flair, the most awkward looking wrestler of all time.

  2. Tornado Supreme says:

    I really enjoyed this episode, as always, but coal mining in California in 1949? Hmm….

  3. Irrestable object says:

    Awesome show! TITS!! Like always. I remember watching this Nitro, at this point I flipped back and forth (pre DVR) but I have to admit I did not know why as Nitro had long lost its luster and was pretty much a complete disaster. I still watched being a huge wrestling “mark” (also my name) I could not get enough through about 2002. I lost interest over the years but at least there is OSWP!! The memories you guys bring back are so much fun.

    With episode 100 on the horizon are you taking suggestions ? Spring Stampede 98 from the Tacoma Dome would be awesome. Saw it live DDP wins the title. Great event overall… Pick what you want either way I am listening.

    Thanks for the show!!!

  4. Bigpappadump says:

    Not sure where the right place to post about the episode is (Board or here) so I will just post them in both. So instead of show prepping for my afternoon drive show, I spent all morning doing some deep research on the ECW fan. This is what I dug up thus far.

    Found more info about the ECW fan known as Lenny.

    “Long-haired guy (Faith No More guy, Howard Stern guy, Lenny) was a part of Mike Johnson’s group, but I heard he moved to Florida. That’s why he wasn’t at the 2nd ONS. Hat Guy was at all of the Hardcore Homecoming shows and the WWECW show at the Arena.”

    Source: http://board.deathvalleydriver.com/topi … e__st__380

    Edit 2: “Yeah that’s a rabid wrestling fan who attended most the ECW shows, and many many WWF events. His nickname was “Faith No More Guy” whose real first name is Lenny and who worked in a grocery store. With him was always “Hat Guy” aka the fan who always wore the hawaiin shirt and straw hat. His real name was Jon and he was a mail man. Both were reoccuring wrestling fans in the 90’s. Also joining them at many ECW shows and in the front rows of many WWF shows was that black man with glasses. And a man with a grey mustache who IIRC was a vietnam war veteran. Hat Guy was always the outspoken fan who yelled at the wrestlers.”

    Source: http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthrea … 483&page=1

    Edit 3: Also, this may be a clue. Hat Guy, the ECW fan got his front row ticket to ECW every show, because he helped set up chairs.

    Source: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=87f3eEjxC8I

    Edit 4: Also Lenny is rumored to be from Queens New York.

    Edit 5: Turns out his name could actually be Thad.

    “Faith No More Guy: Real Name: Thad. Referred to as “Faith No More Guy” (FNM Guy) due to his strong resemblance to Jim Martin, the guitarist for the disbanded San Francisco-based band Faith No More, which disbanded on 04/20/98. The group’s most successful album was 1989’s “The Real Thing.” It yielded a hit single, “Epic,” for which the group earned a Grammy Award nomination for best hard rock/heavy metal performance. At ECW, FNM Guy, is referred to as both “Faith No More Guy” and “Rob Zombie,” due to his resemblance to White Zombie’s Rob Zombie. He is a New York Area fan. He also has frequently attended WWF events, including the 1998 Royal Rumble (01/19/98). These excursions have led some to believe he is a wrestling journalist of some kind. Close friend of Michael Johnson, who had his own wrestling folder on America Online.”

    http://wrestlingclassics.com/cgi-bin/.u … 9;t=040810

    My guess if his name is Thad and not lenny, is that Lenny came from Lemmy. I have read some people calling him Lemmy guy, because of a slight resemblance to Lemmy of Motor Head.

    I really should be doing something other than this at work.

    Edit 6: So someone recalls their convo with him on a message board.

    “I got to talk to Faith No More Guy for like three seconds at Hardcore Heaven. I think I said, “Holy shit, it’s you,” to him. And he was like, “Yep.” Riveting stuff.”

    Source: http://forums.prowrestling.com/showthread.php?t=118665

    Edit 7: Just adding to my post as I find things out. So in 2006, FNM Guy (Faith No More Guy) apparently worked at a grocery store in queens.

    “Faith No More Guy rules. He works at a grocery store in Queens. Haha.”

    We need to send someone on patrol to queens and scout out the grocery stores there.

    Source: http://www.boardsandrec.com/archive/ind … 51370.html

  5. Dre says:

    Winner winner chicken dinner. Send your mailing address to thisisdre@gmail.com and I will send you the pride pack. I hope you can move on with your life.

    Thanks again.

  6. Bigpappadump may be my favorite name on this comment board. Either that or Butt Douglas.

  7. MoolahTossedSalad says:

    Jeff Jarrett captured his first WCW title in the middle of April..By the end of May, he was a 4 time WCW champ..unreal.

  8. MoolahTossedSalad says:

    BTW, you mentioned Vince attaining the library for Mid South/UWF from Watts.. The reason it was held on to is Bill Watts lost his own rights to the library in his divorce and the ex wife and sons were selling tapes to generate income for themselves.

  9. Kellam says:

    Interesting you brought up a “who was this fan” mystery with “Faith No More guy”. Because I have recently become obsessed with finding out about this crazy, fat wrestling kid with a bowl cut. My friends and I have seen him in the crowd at 4 different shows from a twelve month span in the 90’s, always going apoplectic. He went to shows on the west coast and the midwest, with both WCW and WWF, and was only a young teenager. Please assist me in solving this mystery. I have been documenting my painfully thorough investigation on reddit.

    • Hardcore Badass says:

      Kellam, my friends and I have noticed that guy and named him Chubbs. We first noticed him at WCW Super Brawl VII. We slow-mo’ed the video tape of him going crazy because his face would shake one direction, but his bowl hair would go the other. We thought it was pretty fantastic.

      • Kellam says:

        Same exact thing for us! The bowl cut swiveling is the funniest. He’s been at Superbrawl VII (I think that was the first one we saw him at too), Wrestlemania 12, Wrestlemania 13, and King of the Ring 96. Shows in the midwest and on the west coast, for WWF and WCW. Great seats every time. He looks 15. It just makes no sense. I have gifs and video of him at the reddit page.

  10. Since we are on the topic of notable fans, I seem to recall that every time WWF/E was in the midwest-ish area, there was always a big bald dude in a crazy colored button up (sometimes silk)shirt. He had a small goatee, and looked to be in his late 30’s. Usually the shirt was bright pink, and he was always facing the hard camera for the most part, to get the most TV time. I think this was in the early 2000’s, but my timing may be off.

    These are a couple of posts I found on other message boards describing this gentleman:

    “Personally I was always more interested in a pink shirt guy who always had near ringside seats to a number of PPV’s. he was most notable at no mercy 1999 but i’ve seen him everywhere including wrestlemania 10, great american bash 1995, king of the ring 1998, and plenty in between.

    Pink shirt guy was at WrestleMania 23 I believe and had shaved his head.”

    “Wwe fan with pink shirt??
    Has anyone else noticed a moderatly fat guy thats bald and wears a pink shirt that has sat in the front row at several wwe events??

    I was a couple of videos today and noticed this guy cause his shirt stands out heaps and i was wondering if anyone else has noticed him..
    5 years ago Report Abuse Additional Details
    um well i dont exactly know the ppvs that he was at cause as i said i was watching videos and noticed him. But im pretty sure he was at wrestlemania 23 sitting left of the ring.”

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